Ok I got tired of waiting for a real reply like the ones I asked for on the last update so here's one for people to flame away!
If anything, the last update proves that the average intelligence of the Second Dawn/Second Dawn fans out there isnt high enough to read simple paragraphs. It was proven by their repeated replies wich did not fill the required form that was clearly stated at the top of that post. In the end, I guess the update proved what I wanted it to, that what I posted are facts and the SD folks just cant say anything against them that are also facts. They lose.
So since it was unfortunate I had to remove some fairly entertaining flames because I clearly stated what kidn of replies for that one post, Ill try and summ up what was lost (feel free to repost them on this update, notice this is back to normal and anything that was fine to post before is fine again)
I suck
I'm a bitch
Beer is good
I have a small penis
I live with my mom
Dissolution sucks
Dissolution just says the Avatar is broken cuz they are hurt
I think that about covers it all. Now let me ask a question? If the avatar of Valor wasnt broken, how come Exil, leader of Second Dawn admitted that SD just got lucky with no adds spawning for a long time near the start of their fight? How come SOE released a change to that encounter on test today to introduce a mob that never spawned before but was supposed to be spawning?
Evidentally it was broken, as anyone with a brain could tell. Of course, that didnt stop Second Dawn because if you remember, they swamped the SOE boards saying how great of an encounter it was, great script, and Petgroup inparticular was especially adamant that the encounter was not broken. God that guy must feel like a complete dumbass.
I am pretty sure Second Dawn is butthurt because exactly what I said was going to happen, happened. A bigtime beta guild (Second Dawn) world firsted the content they had been beta testing for a month before any regular guild (Dissolution) had a chance to pull it. Its like I said before, I would be ashamed if Dissolution was a special needs guild that beta tests and did NOT world first everything in EoF. There was no level cap to slow down, we had top end gear already, we would have come out and world firsted it all if were in beta or hung our heads in cold, bitter shame. Second Dawn obviously doesnt feel that way and is content taking an extra month over the rest of the world. I guess that is the difference between the two guilds, ours wants to be the best, where Second Dawn acknowledges that they need an extra month.
The fact that Second Dawn can never escape from is they were in EoF at the begining of October. That is a fact, I have the screenshot to prove it and it has been posted before. EoF did not release until mid November. Second Dawn has 6 weeks to try and learn the content. The sad thing is, they arent even bright enough to tell when a mob is obviously broken like the Avatar of Valor is/was.
I for one, am quite happy that of all the raid content cleared that Dissolution did it either first or second in EoF so far. We knew going in that beating beta guilds was going to be very hard because they had been playing with the content for weeks and talking to developers about what abilites mobs have and we were all just getting to see it for the first time on our own. I enjoy challenging encounters, so do the other members of Dissolution. I guess Second Dawn would prefer to be a special needs beta guild. That is a fact they cannot overcome until the next expansion. They know its true that they needed that extra edge, if it wasnt, they wouldnt care what Dissolution has to say about it, but because it is true they are hurt that someone actually called them on it.
Its not a coincidence that the guilds that beta test always do better. For proof look at KoS. Everyone new NPU beta tested it, NPU got a lot of world firsts in KoS. NPU didnt do very much beta testing in EoF and how many world firsts do they have? Second Dawn didnt do much if any beta testing in KoS, didnt do shit. Suddenly they get to beta test EoF and they are getting world firsts. Its not a coincidence, its that they have seen these mobs before, they have fought them before, and the ones that were changed were changed based on their feedback and what their raid could/could not handle.
So in the end, yes Second Dawn got number 1 on Wuoshi, Mayong, and Avatar of Valor(BROKEN version). And yes, Second Dawn saw all that stuff in beta. Grats I guess if your proud of that and feel its something to boast about as you obviously do. I for one would never want to lower my guild to beta testing and working with devs so if we have to lose a couple world firsts to a special needs guild so be it. Grats Dissolution on killing the same encounters while maintaining the integrity and the balls to do it without an extra month and without a helping hand.
Potatoes Potahtoes. Some people are willing to take a harder rode to say they did it on their own, some people are content to take the easy rode and rely on help from developers. To each their own I guess.